Curse

Konig Des Todes · Jan 22, 2011, 11:21 AM // 11:21

Energy is energy. It won't look any different.

If the color was blue (the color of the Blasphemy), would you say it would be connected still because the texture is the same?

That isn't to say there is no link between the gods and the ED (see the facets). That wasn't disproven yet. It's just that the color is not a link between them, and there is no (direct) link between Abaddon and Kralkatorrik.

Spiritz · Jan 24, 2011, 09:26 AM // 09:26

"She was the first creature placed on the continent of Tyria by the gods to oversee the new world. As time went on, she was given servants - The Forgotten, to aid her in this task"
That can also mean when the gods took over - kuna was the First creature They placed on tyria - other creatures who were not placed by the gods may have already existed.
Ie she was "introduced" to tyria like a new exibit in a zoo gets introduced .

draxynnic · Jan 24, 2011, 10:59 AM // 10:59

That line relates to Glint, not Kuunavang.

The only thing we really know about Kuunavang's history is that she laired in the Harvest Temple, empowered Archemorus and Saint Viktor, and was corrupted by Shiro. Presumably during the events of Factions rather than at the Jade Wind, since she has an Afflicted look.

Konig Des Todes · Jan 24, 2011, 11:39 PM // 23:39

Wait wait wait wati wait wait wait

Kuunavang empowered Archemorus and Saint Viktor?

Where is this ever stated?

BrettM · Jan 25, 2011, 04:47 AM // 04:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redemptor Iszar

We have come to the whirlpool to receive power from the great dragon Kuunavang. This is where Saint Viktor, the Kurzick champion who helped defeat Shiro many years ago, received his power.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elder Oxis

We have come to the whirlpool to receive power from the great dragon Kuunavang. This is where Luxon champion Archemorus, who helped defeat Shiro, received his power from all those years ago.

@Drax: The in-game description of the Harvest Temple outpost says "Here the mighty dragon Kuunavang still lurks in the caverns beneath the temple, utterly corrupted by the proximity of Shiro's death wail." The description of the Unwaking Waters outpost (either side) refers to a legend of a dragon being trapped within the temple. This all makes it sound like Kuuna was just collateral damage 200 years ago.

Yet, she herself tells us that Shiro's touch and his presence corrupted her, making it sound like he was deliberately working to control her in the present day.

draxynnic · Jan 25, 2011, 08:18 AM // 08:18

Dangit! I knew I'd missed something...

I'd recalled that it was mentioned that she was lairing in the Harvest Temple, but I was looking for it in the quest text and didn't think to check the actual outpost descriptions...

It's curious that it mentioned Kuunavang being corrupted in the Harvest Temple outpost itself, since my the time you get to it she's Got Better. It's possible that that particular line actually refers to the corruption of the temple, or that Shiro added to the corruption on returning to the temple to create Afflicted Kuunavang.

Still, my point is that either way, we simply don't know anything about Kuunavang's history prior to the Jade Wind.